Thursday, 18 April 2013

Manchester United vs West Ham United Trip by Shane Kelly

No comments:
Manchester United vs West Ham United Trip by Shane Kelly @shanekels

Being a teacher in Ireland it costs you money, a lot of time and a college certificate for the right to take three days off during the school year (poor teachers and our few holidays). Being a thirty something with friends dropping left, right and centre these days are held on for that special day (or stag). Well that was the idea but then United's fixture with West Ham got moved to midweek game, obviously I had to use the two to follow the boys. I will make the wedding afters, those masses are as routine as Liverpool at home.

For some time while building up to this fixture I thought we would be either: 

a) Been champions or b) Would become champions on the night. 

Things may have not gone to plan of late though. The team have been winded since that result against Real Madrid in the Champions League a couple of months back. People may say we are Man United that's no excuse but these players have been looking on at Madrid team beat a poor Galatasaray team and then draw a good, but beatable Dortmund in a semi-final; That's got to hurt. The league was wrapped up a long time ago and they had eyes on the bigger prize. This fixture has now become a must win game for a different reason, we can now win the league at the Emirates and revenge for Wiltord in 01/02. If we can knock Arsenal out of the top four it would be a bonus, longer term they are a bigger threat than Spurs or Everton. A year out of the Champions League would make them less of a threat.

Stoke at the weekend while routine was also efficient. They ball retention was impressive and we may have seen glimpses of the future with Wayne Rooney in the middle. Three points in the bag and the threat of Stoke's physical game stifled by dictating the pace of the game, more of the same will be needed again against West Ham. The form of our wingers is worrying. I think it may lead to Ferguson to shift in strategy for next season. Kagawa will be more influential. Zaha while a winger can also come inside and his interplay is impressive. For me he is a mix between Nani and Welbeck, hopefully he can make the step up to the Premiership. Next season I can see us playing similar to a Dortmund, more freedom with our midfielders and front men. Playing between the lines with interchangeable players. Gotze, Reus and Lewandowski pop up all over the pitch, it doesn't effect there goals or and assists. On Kagawa I believe Ferguson has minded him at times, but to put him out of position against Stoke was strange. I believe we have signed a gem and must find the best way to use him. I also hope he starts tomorrow night.

On the game tomorrow, when your facing a striker who's has banged in 24 Premiership goals and cost £30 million pounds you know it's not going to be an easy game. Then you realise it's 24 career goals and its Andy Carroll. The Boleyn ground/Upton park is usually an eventful place for United to visit. The pain of '95 when it just wouldn't go in, on another day Andy Cole could have bagged a hat trick. More recently I was in the crowd two seasons ago when a guy called Demba Ba (don't know where he ended up) gave us hell for 45 mins but then Hernandez came off the bench and ran them ragged and Wayne bagged a hat-trick with some "choice language" thrown in.  Then the FA cup this season with that ball from Giggs and then that finish from RVP..WOW. Hopefully tomorrows is as eventful. I'm going to try and read Fergie's mind before I hit the hay and get ready for flight AB48PI Dublin to London. 


Tomorrow's team. DDG, Jones, Smalling, Vidic, Evra, Carrick, Cleverley, Giggs, Rooney, RVP and Welbeck.

You've got to love when a RyanAir flight arrives on time and then they leave you standing in an aisle for a good twenty minutes. Bit of a rush across the city but we made it for kick off. First things first there's no point trying to read Fergie's mind.  It was a line up I didn't expect or understand.

I don't like second guessing Sir Alex as he has achieved so much but Phil Jones is not a central midfielder.  He can do a job when we play against a Ronaldo or a Bale but we were playing West Ham, managed by Big Sam. They were going to bypass midfield all day so the need for a ball winner in the middle was nil. We needed players in there that play with there heads up. I've got no doubt Phil Jones is going to be a top, top defender for us. I think starting Cleverley, Giggs or even the same line up as the Stoke game would have been more beneficial.

2-2 was probably a fair result but it was a frustrating one. A game I feel that if we needed to win we would have won but the team has lacked motivation since the league was a one horse race, and then that Madrid result. Andy Carroll got man of the match, whoever picked that ignored the fact he should have been red carded, the fact his passing was off, Vidic coped with him in the air and was generally useless. We got into the box holders bar through a friend after the game where a hammers fan told us "Carroll gets MOTM every home game no matter what, just like Parker used to". I hope he goes back to Liverpool, it would be another sign of there demise. Of West Ham's players Diame was there best and Collins is a good defender. For United I was again impressed by Rafael and I thought Kagawa played well again (out of position). Rafael could be our number one right back for the next ten years. The second goal was an example of what Kagawa can do in tight spaces behind a front man. It was good to see RVP on the score sheet yet again.  We were at times sloppy and some of the decision making at times was poor. Valencia although scoring played within himself again which is so frustrating to watch. Rooney has a big summer ahead of him. If he's to stay, I believe he will and hope he does, he need to work on his fitness. He looked jaded early on in the game.



The sooner we wrap up the title, and we will, the better. The team seemed to be playing with the handbrake on. Three points against Villa and then win it at the Emirates. Then they can relax and enjoy the remaining games.

Fans from other clubs and even some within talk of "a poor Unted team" but we are closing in on the 5th title in 7 years, which would have been 6 in 7 if QPR had any heart..I won't start. That's as impressive a period domestically as we have ever had.  As fans we always wait on the summer market with expectation and hope of wholesale world class signings, ever the optimists. We are the dominant team in England and this summer should be spent finding the missing links in Europe. I can see Nani leaving, if I spent a season watching Valencia start ahead of me I'd go, Anderson will probably leave and we will sign one or maybe two players.  Defensively I think we are covered for next year and for years beyond that.  There's always talk of box to box midfielders but if you look at the Bayern, Barcelona, Madrid etc its players that play and press further up the field that are making the difference in Europe. I'm sure we will sign a midfielder, but who it is? Anyone's guess.  Have I thought that every year for past 5 years? Yes. Upfront we are well stocked but if Falcao wants to come then he's more than welcome.

Home in Dublin again after an entertaining 24 hour visit of London.  No regrets apart from the 3 Euro bottle of water purchased on the flight home. I won't fly with RyanAir dehydrated again! Hats off to the guys hopping on coaches back to Manchester at 10 last night. You guys are the heartbeat of the greatest club in the world.

Images displayed in this article have been allowed to be displayed by the owner, who appears in the pictures and has taken them.

Monday, 15 April 2013

From Coppell and Strachan to Nani and Valencia - History of our Width

No comments:
History of Manchester United Wingers

Growing up in the eighties and nineties as a United supporter I was always spoiled for wingers with the likes of Steve Coppell, Gordon Strachan and Jesper Olsen then of course later on the tricky trio of Sharpe, Giggs and Kanchelskis tormented defenses. Then David Beckham began his stardom on our right flank and although he wasn't the prototypical tricky and fast United winger he was a lethal crosser and free kick specialist.

These excellent players supplied Atkinson and Ferguson's United with plenty of firepower but for every quality attacker on the wings there was a Ralph Milne, Karel Poborksy or a Jordi Cryuff who stunk things up in a United shirt. Players like these would be swiftly moved on and more stars would be found in a seemingly never ending winger production line culminating in probably the most complete player to appear for the club in decades in Cristiano Ronaldo.

If you take Giggsy's transformation into a centre midfielder in his later career out of the equation it's been down to Ronaldo's success that the winger culture at the club has changed or evolved somewhat. His performance as a wide player who scored goals in striker numbers altered the gaffers view of how his wide players should operate. His subsequent transfer policy and tactical shifts have been influenced by Ronaldo's time at the club and his always inevitable departure to Madrid. In subsequent years Ferguson has been stuck in two minds about the type of wide players he wants and type of wide play he expects. His transfer policy has reflected this conflicted view. For every tricky ball artist like Nani (Giggs, Ronaldo) we have the more direct type of winger in Valencia and Young.

This mix of styles in wide players would normally be a good balance to have, unfortunately for them there seems to be a diversion within the managers tactical thinking when it comes to including Danny Welbeck into the team line up. Welbeck is well liked by the faithful but he has yet to firmly find his legs as a United player both figuratively and literally speaking. I personally do not think he is a starter of us yet and seems to be the biggest reason for the lack of playing time for Javier Hernandez, which sooner or later will cost us a bona fide goalscorer.

We rightly consider Sir Alex as the greatest manager ever but there is no doubt he does make baffling tactical and personnel decisions and can rankle the most ardent of the united support, the recent derby loss being a good example. His current insistence of playing Welbeck with Rooney and Van Persie seems to indicate he is deviating away from the traditional winger attack and players like the sub par Antonio Valencia and the frustratingly inconsistent Nani are left by the wayside. The preference of Ashley Young in recent times is also puzzling, I find Young predictable and limited and I am sure many agree with me.

I believe Ferguson will acutely focus on ball retention and smart ball players in the middle such as the ever improving Kagawa and last summers chase for Hazard would suggest. I also believe at this moment in time Welbeck is a square peg being forced into a round hole and the incoming Wilfried Zaha will probably struggle the same way initially. I don't doubt the potential talent of these two exciting young players but it will be interesting to see how they both are used next season

So what we find is the champion of two wingers attacking from wide areas Sir Alex Ferguson is moving away from his traditional forte and forgoing the wide outs for a three striker system. It doesn't bode well for the futures of Nani and Valencia especially. Last years pursuit of Lucas Moura seems to indicate that the boss has still some leaning towards the dribbling trickster in the team make up but it was more than likely that Moura was seen as a Nani replacement in due to the Portugese internationals contract running out. For all intents and purposes the day of the two flank attack from midfield seems to be over and it ends a long traditional part of our attacking ethos.


Monday, 1 April 2013

Letter to SEF, Reclaim United and Head of Manchester United Marketing

2 comments:
Improving Old Trafford Atmosphere - Fans Views

To,
       Stretford End Flags
       Reclaim United
       Jonathan Rigby (Head of Manchester United Marketing)

A huge topic over the past few years is the idea of improving the match day atmosphere at Old Trafford. I have addressed all three of you as from Twitter I believe you are the most involved in sorting out events and are looking to change things on match days.

I understand you are all interested in improving the atmosphere at Manchester United and discussions are all currently ongoing with such things e.g. Singing Section etc. The purpose of this letter is for you to understand some fans' views on the current situation at Old Trafford and hopefully an insight on how it frustrates some of us.

I posed the question to my 3,885 (As of 8th March 2013) Twitter followers @UtdMancunian which is a MUFC Supporters page. 'How would you improve Old Trafford's atmosphere?' There was a huge response and some interesting ones on that. I'll leave the list of tweets unedited and who they are from below at the end; excuse the language if easily offended.

The points most addressed were of:

A Singing Section
Moving Away Fans
Safe Standing

These are the 3 main points us fans believe is best to improve Old Trafford's atmosphere, we all know this, but it is how to try to get them in place which lies the difficulty. I understand you are trying your best to do this, so apologies if you are find this insulting. I hope you spend your time understanding how us the 'fans' feel about it.

A singing section and moving away fans from what I gather are linked. From what I understand the previous idea is to move the away fans and place a singing section where the away fans were. I could be completely incorrect, but surely this doesn't have to be the case? Some suggestions include moving the away fans to the Sir Alex Ferguson Stand Tier 3 and or the North-West Quardrant. I understand there are 'health and safety' issues with away fans moving to SAF Tier 3 due to celebrations and e.g. 'Poznan'. Personally I don't know if moving the away fans to the North-West Quadrant is a viable option due to it being next to the Stretford End; there would need to be a vast amount of policing and stewarding. If you believe this can work then I hope this option helps. We all understand that the acoustics in Old Trafford favour where the away fans sit, hence the reason of wanting to move there.

Safe standing is probably one of the most difficult methods of implementing at Old Trafford and in English football. The German example of this is a fantastic, easy and safe method. The idea of having a seat folded up which can be unfolded by a steward (by a type of key) etc and a bar in front to stand and hold/lean on.

All fans clearly understand this isn't an issue which can be sorted overnight and is a lengthy process which involves a working relation between the club and its fans.
The West Stand we all know as the 'Stretford End' is the best atmospheric stand in Old Trafford. The majority of Old Trafford's noise comes from this stand predominately from Tier 2. The most frustrating about Tier 1 of the Stretford End is the suite and family area in it. The Stretford End is the figure head of noise at Old Trafford and it shouldn't be like this, it is for the 'hardcore' fans who want to stand and sing for 90mins.

The East Stand is known for being loud on occasions and providing some noise to the Old Trafford atmosphere, correct me if I'm wrong but it is from East Stand Tier 1. From what I gather from people who sit there they think the atmosphere is 'ok'.

The North Stand would probably be known as the quietest of the stands for its size which is frustrating and it will be hard to fix this. I have seen some videos that the atmosphere from the Stretford End can simmer through to the seats close to the North Stand, but rarely escalates.

I think the whole of the South Stand should be for families and younger children who do not want to listen to swearing etc. Obviously we don't condone swearing at football matches, but we would be kidding ourselves if we think that it is possible to get rid of.

Final other factors:

Cheaper Ticket Prices For Proper Fans
Corporate Tickets
Away Tickets
Turning off PA 5mins Before Kick-off

Joshua Cain ‏@Caino_ 

Stretford End fully standing like the Germans do.

Nigel Bretherton ‏@nigelbretherton 

Stand and Sing, job done!

Liam Mufc Chantler ‏@LiamChantler

Standing section like in Germany or a Singing Section and PA off 5 minutes early every game.

Alex Stevens ‏@alexmufc19 

Upper is always standing. The away fans need to be moved to SAF Tier 3 and every fan needs to learn words to all songs #simple.

Joshua Bean ‏@JoshuaBean2 

Have a singing section or a standing section where all fans that sing can go.

Giggsy ‏@redronzo 

It would be interesting to know how many fans at OT each week are there for the first time. How many > 5 visits.

UNITED⚽4⚽LIFE ‏@CaMjOb97 

The simple way: Everyone who attends learns the songs! Then sing your hearts out! Not hard.

Giggsy ‏@redronzo 
Reduce prices and reduce the number of tickets that go to overseas visitors( not inc. Ireland).

Matt Austin ‏@mattaustin7 

Stretford end all stand if u don't wanna stand go to the south or north stand.

Ian Kenrick ‏@IanKenrick97 

Going often enough to know them! and standing up!

Tom Ward ‏@TomW19_ 

A song to sing along to at the begging.

TheBestInTheWorld ‏@Proccyy 

Full standing stand, make the south stand family friendly (easier to buy children and adult tickets) mosaic flags at night..

TheBestInTheWorld ‏@Proccyy 

Big games and cup games.

Shane Murphy ‏@Shane_Murphy_95 

New songs that are more like proper songs and not just like every other chant.

Rory Smith ‏@Rozza146 

Stop all music ten mins before game & have big banners that are significant to the game or team we are playing.

Alex Stevens ‏@alexmufc19 

Tell Stewards to do one if they ask you to sit Oh and don't leave early to avoid traffic.

Jamie Wood ‏@jaywood1 

Safe standing.

Ron Waldman ‏@RonWaldmanMSP 

Remember the scarf , take it over Your head and sing!

Aku Vallenius ‏@AkuVallenius 

Too much day trippers and tourists. Safe standing. Family stand moved from Stretty.

Symmo ‏@Des_86 

Take the German example.

Adam Burgess ‏@Budgecore7

Leaving before the end is fu**ed. Tos**rs.

Louis O'Halloran ‏@bannanapankakes 

Have a standing only area!

Jamie Wood ‏@jaywood1 

The German league is fantastic.

Liam Mufc Chantler ‏@LiamChantler 

Away fans in north west quadrant.

Niclas Svensson ‏@NiclasUtd 

Place some song books on the chairs. The people don't know the lyrics.

Louie Sweeney ‏@ljas1108

Have designated singing areas.

Alex Stevens ‏@alexmufc19 

Glory glory man united should never be sung.

Tony ‏@bigtonycoffey 

It would help if fans could be in their seats about 10 mins before kick nothing more annoying then late comers.

Rory Smith ‏@Rozza146 

Have the Stretford end fully stood up and they should have the massive banner.

Shane Murphy ‏@Shane_Murphy_95 

More original songs about the club the players and our history would be more meaningful.

Nick Hunter ‏@Nickhunter88 

It's hard the people near my seat don't even like standing for Busby babes Only way to remove all the TV fans #OTatmosphere.

Patrick Lundberg ‏@Pada_5 

Drums and megaphones. Creates a good atmosphere but doesn't fit in at a footy ground.

Jamie Wood ‏@jaywood1 

A drum is just empty noise and I wouldn't think it would fit into a lot of r songs, also they use back of Stretty.

Symmo ‏@Des_86

Went to a Dortmund game a few years back and the noise was unbelievable.

Alex ‏@AlexMufc_ 

Standing area in Stretford End and near the away fans.

Patrick Lundberg ‏@Pada_5 

You can never get away from day trippers etc. I travel from Sweden about 10 times.

Alex Stevens ‏@alexmufc19 

Play away every week #bestawayfansintheleague.

Symmo ‏@Des_86 

Drums etc aren't really necessary. More about gathering together like minded fans.

Dano ‏@89Owen 

Move The Family Stand To SAF Tier 3! If you Don't Want To Hear Swearing Fu*k Off Up There.

Conor Corley ‏@Conor_Corley1 

It's going to sound mad, but imagine a smaller ground, 40,000 hardcore fans singing their hearts out! That will create it.

Jord Marshall ‏@JordMarshall123 

Should be a song where half is bottom Stretford other part of song tier2 and all join in at same time be amazing that.

Nelly6 ‏@Neiljoeyhollick 

I went to OT a few weeks back and there were people there that didn't even know what colour UTD played in. And when we started...

Nelly6 ‏@Neiljoeyhollick 

Singing people turned round and gave us dirty looks or told us to shut up. Could not believe what I saw or heard. I know people want...

Nelly6 ‏@Neiljoeyhollick 

To go and watch UTD but you can't sit there and just be quiet or give people dirty looks when fans start singing. I need to watch a...

Nelly6 ‏@Neiljoeyhollick 

Game from the Stretford end to see everyone act the same as me #mufc.

TheDFlood ‏@d_flood111 

Safe standing and/or singing section would help..nothing wrong with our songs but we do struggle because of day trippers.

Adam Burgess ‏@Budgecore7

Play Real Madrid every week.

Dano ‏@89Owen 

East stand is ok improved but south and north are no go for me!

Benno Miller ‏@Benno_LUHG 

Remember a kid being behind us with his dad in the SE and just before kick off he said "don't worry son they'll sit down soon".

Chris Utd Fan ‏@kennedyunited 

Tell anyone who comes in to either sing or fu*k off!

Dano ‏@89Owen 

In Stretford End You Can Sing Classics, But In The Other Stands They Only Know The Generic Ones! Like GGMU.

Jamie Fairhead ‏@gingerjamieMUFC 

Stop ticket touts who sell over priced tickets to tourists who haven't a clue what colour Scholes' hair is!!

Benno Miller ‏@Benno_LUHG 

Champions' league group game, a young couple cuddled up kissing all game. Fu*k off!!!!

Keith ‏@SAFismyGOD 

I remember I came over for QPR and West Ham because they were only a few days apart. Bought someone's ST's for the two games..

Keith ‏@SAFismyGOD 

Was in the very top row of the Stretty, tier two. Loved all the fans around me so much. Standing and singing for 90 mins...

Keith ‏@SAFismyGOD 

Straight. To my left though for QPR was 3 Chinese lads, all with 3 cameras each with them. Didn't know a single song...

Keith ‏@SAFismyGOD 

I know it suited me but ST holders shouldn't be able to sell their ST's every week and only go to "big games"...

Keith ‏@SAFismyGOD 

Should only be able to pass on your ticket to a close friend/family member if you genuinely can't attend yourself.

Stephen Toner ‏@TONERtheBONER 

A fella got threw out the other night because he was standing + singing!! #joke north west quad.

Daniel Bardsley ‏@danbards 

We should expand the Stretford end like Dortmund's stand behind the goal to create a better atmosphere.

Gary ‏@garyr179

Saw a lad at OT with a girl last week and she was dolled up to the max! pathetic, she sat on her phone for most of the game #tit.

William Luke Brown ‏@williamlukeee 

Tier 2 of the Stretford End is without a doubt the best place to sit, bouncing and singing for 90 minutes plus! #MUFC.

Jack Tring ‏@ToxicJT 

It will never change and forever fu*ks me off! Can't stand, sing, swear or breathe! #Pi*sTake.

Ben Richards ‏@bengoon10 

I've had a lad ask me which is man united best is when he learnt the Tevez song with like 10 min to go shouting on his own ha!

Dano ‏@89Owen 

#HalfAndHalfT*ats #IPadCu*ts Say No More!

Patrick Lundberg ‏@Pada_5 

The problem is that the noise from Stretty doesn't go down to the pitch. Need a singing section near the pitch. Away fans ex.

Support Nani !!! ‏@lauren_jenks96

Phone/ipad users etc! Half scarfers! People who don't sing! Get rid of the lot of 'em!

Dano ‏@89Owen 

If Only We Could Fill The Ground With Lads We Find At Pubs Around The Ground! We Won't Go Far Wrong!

Totty ‏@totty134 

Cheaper tickets for actual fans so they can afford. Get rid of corporate tickets fans old stadium would still sell out every..

Totty ‏@totty134 

Game reclaim OT for the fans make its a fan club as is used to be years ago.

John Thompson ‏@JT_MUFC 

When we get safe standing back, the atmosphere will fix itself. Why do you think Tuesday was so good? We were all standing.

Manchester Is RED ‏@MancIs_RED 

Have the Stretford end a full standing section and reduce ticket prices so proper fans can get tickets..

Manchester Is RED ‏@MancIs_RED 

Only have to look at Germany to see how well it works.

Manchester Is RED ‏@MancIs_RED 

Also turn the PA off five minutes before every game. Let the fans create the noise #ReclaimUnited.